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Re: st: Has anyone used STATA 11 on Windows 7 (32bit)?
Re: st: Has anyone used STATA 11 on Windows 7 (32bit)?
Fri, 28 Aug 2009 17:10:39 +0100
Title: Re: st: Has anyone used STATA 11 on Windows 7 (32bit)? Thanks
It does NOT run with SPSS. Its some issues about the way java and/or file handling and database are handled – not the hardware
So I am concerned – and certainly not wasting mey time debuggin for Apple
On 28/08/2009 15:06, "Eric A. Booth" <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote:
There shouldn't be any issues with running Stata 11 under Snow Leopard
One of the only differences between Leopard & Snow Leopard that will
affect Stata 11 will be that Snow Leopard has been completely
transitioned to 64-bit, so this *should* make Stata faster (if only
because the other programs, system resources, and kernel binaries
running on the machine will now be in 64-bit) and more stable (it's
improved argument handling should make it more resilient to any issues
with Stata crashing...though this hasn't happened very often for me).
Also, Apple has been touting that, in theory, Snow Leopard could
recognize 16 EXABYTES (or 16 billion GB) of physical RAM (versus the
current 32 GB ram limit); that is, if you had a machine or cluster
with that level of resources.
While I'm not going to go out and buy Snow Leopard until Apple has had
a month or two to send out updates to fix any bugs/issues, I think
there is a clear advantage in running Stata 11 on 10.6 rather than 10.5.
Eric A. Booth
Public Policy Research Institute
Texas A&M University
On Aug 28, 2009, at 6:41 AM, kornbrot wrote:
> How about Snow Leopard?
> Just acquired new version 11 for Mac, new in July 09 – really hope
> it can!
> On 28/08/2009 11:44, "Ada Ma" <email@example.com> wrote:
>> Hi Sergiy,
>> Thank you so much for your detailed reply.
>> I am considering buying a couple of PCs to replace older PCs within
>> department, and I was wondering what I needed to get. Originally I
>> was pulling my hair out because my university used to charge a £700
>> per PC on top of hardware and software for looking after a 64 bit
>> machine. As we are looking to replace about 6 to 8 PCs it's going to
>> cost us a considerate amount of money! I have asked the IT dept
>> about this charge since I wrote the email to Statalist and they said
>> they have now waived this charge (YAY!!!)
>> So it looks like the problems are resolving on their own - and
>> hopefully it will go on that direction.
>> I have only recently used Windows Vista and I haven't yet tried to
>> push the Stata memory limit on that platform, so it's good to know
>> what you have told me. My university does not support Windows Vista
>> and we are still using XP - I am guessing that they may skip the
>> and directly upgrade from XP to Windows 7. I have a Vista machine at
>> home, so I will try what you've said in your email.
>> Warm regards,
>> On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 7:00 PM, Sergiy Radyakin<firstname.lastname@example.org
>> > wrote:
>> > Dear Ada,
>> > any computers you might be buying now are definitely not 32-bit.
>> > are almost surely 64-bit.
>> > So installing a 32-bit OS is underusing the available resources.
>> > 32-bit versions of the modern Windows are designed primarily for
>> > compatibility reasons.
>> > And you will almost surely upgrade your software in the future.
>> > 1. Do you have any specific software that will not run in the 64-
>> > environment? 32-bit programs work in 64-bit XP and Vista, should be
>> > same with Windows 7. This is not true for the 16-bit programs (Win
>> > 3.11 and earlier) - they do not run in Windows 64-bit, but work in
>> > 32-bit.
>> > 2. Is this the IT policy of your organization to use 32-bit OS? In
>> > this case you may try to pursue the "special needs" route and try
>> > negotiate an exception.
>> > 3. If your data sets grow, how fast? How do you process them? Do
>> > plan to expand the memory in the future? 32-bit OS will underuse it
>> > (anything after 4gb will not be used).
>> > 4. Consult the manufacturer/MSFT regarding upgrade of 32-bit OS to
>> > 64-bit OS. It could very well be free.
>> > 5. Windows 7 comes with a Virtual XP mode: "Windows XP Mode
>> > an additional 1 GB of RAM, an additional 15 GB of available hard
>> > space, and a processor capable of hardware virtualization with
>> > VT or AMD-V turned on" so you will not be worse off than you have
>> > with XP already. Vista often provides more memory to Stata 10 32-
>> > (about 1500mb for me) than XP did (about 1000m for me).
>> > Best regards, Sergiy Radyakin
>> > On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 1:32 PM, Jeph Herrin<email@example.com>
>> >> I've had 64bit XP on a 64bit PC for a couple of years,
>> >> works like a charm. Stata allocates 15gb, no problem.
>> >> hope this helps,
>> >> Jeph
>> >> Ada Ma wrote:
>> >>> Hi Statalisters,
>> >>> I am wondering how much memory I will be able to call upon within
>> >>> STATA 11, given that I will be using a Windows 7 32-bit PC.
>> >>> My experience with Windows XP (32bit) is that the maximum
>> amount of
>> >>> memory I can call for within STATA (v 10) is 1100m, sometimes
>> >>> but never anything approaching 2GB. I have never used STATA 11.
>> >>> I am considering whether it is worthwhile to buy a bunch of new
>> >>> PCs with 3GB of memory that will be used for the next four years.
>> >>> With the data sets we use growing bigger every day I think, for
>> >>> purposes, we should buy new PCs should at least allow us to set
>> >>> to 2GB. The Windows OS is the only option we may take, so we
>> won't be
>> >>> able to adopt solutions that involve the use of alternative OSs.
>> >>> I would greatly appreciate any experience you have with STATA 11
>> >>> and/or Windows 7 32-bit you would care to share!
>> >>> Thank you.
>> >>> Regards,
>> >>> Ada
>> >> *
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>> > * http://www.stata.com/support/statalist/faq
>> > * http://www.ats.ucla.edu/stat/stata/
>> Ada Ma
>> Research Fellow
>> Health Economics Research Unit
>> University of Aberdeen, UK.
>> Tel: +44 (0) 1224 555189
>> Fax: +44 (0) 1224 550926
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>> * http://www.ats.ucla.edu/stat/stata/
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