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Re: st: growth curve model with weights


From   P C <calicep@yahoo.com>
To   statalist@hsphsun2.harvard.edu
Subject   Re: st: growth curve model with weights
Date   Thu, 18 Jun 2009 11:24:42 -0700 (PDT)

Wow, it does take a lot of time. I heard about the negative side of gllamm. I am wondering whether I should try Mplus. Do you know if it does a better job (time-wise) for this kind of modelling?

There is a need for special handling of the school-level weights. I am trying to understand it from her paper but it's not just as simple as scaling. 

Thanks,

Alice

--- On Thu, 6/18/09, Stas Kolenikov <skolenik@gmail.com> wrote:

> From: Stas Kolenikov <skolenik@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: st: growth curve model with weights
> To: statalist@hsphsun2.harvard.edu
> Date: Thursday, June 18, 2009, 2:15 PM
> On 6/18/09, P C <calicep@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> >  The sample I will be working on has a large
> sample size. It has over
> > 15,000 cases. Will it take long for gllamm to estimate
> the growth curve model.
> 
> 15000 students x 4 waves = 60000 entries... I've just been
> running a
> two-level model (although a relatively more complicated) of
> the
> similar total size, and it took about a day with Stata/MP4.
> This is
> not a cup-of-coffee estimation exercise :((
> 
> >  When I specify student-level weight like gen wt2
> = [student level weight],
> > suppose I have three waves (w1weight; w2weight;
> w3weight), when I list them
> > in a hierarachical order in the data file, the
> [student level weight] is no more
> > a constant but changes within each respondent, right?
> 
> Technically nobody knows if there's a proper way of
> handling these.
> But as a matter of putting those weights as inputs to
> -gllamm-, I
> don't think it cares that much about weights not being
> constant
> (although Sophia can correct me if she reads this :))
> 
> >  The other thing is that when I specify
> school-level weight,
> > gen wt3 = [school level weight], I should use the
> method suggested
> > in Sophia's paper to construct the school-level
> weight, right?
> 
> Frankly I don't remember what she was suggesting. You mean,
> the scaling issue?
> 
> -- 
> Stas Kolenikov, also found at http://stas.kolenikov.name
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