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RE: st: Bland Altman Plots for Clustered Data


From   "Ploutz-Snyder, Robert (JSC-SK)[USRA]" <robert.ploutz-snyder-1@nasa.gov>
To   "statalist@hsphsun2.harvard.edu" <statalist@hsphsun2.harvard.edu>
Subject   RE: st: Bland Altman Plots for Clustered Data
Date   Fri, 17 Apr 2009 16:07:49 -0500

Thank you Dave!

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-statalist@hsphsun2.harvard.edu [mailto:owner-statalist@hsphsun2.harvard.edu] On Behalf Of David Airey
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 4:04 PM
To: statalist@hsphsun2.harvard.edu
Subject: Re: st: Bland Altman Plots for Clustered Data

.

http://www.bepress.com/ijb/vol4/iss1/16/

is the reference I was thinking of.

-Dave

On Apr 17, 2009, at 1:56 PM, Ploutz-Snyder, Robert (JSC-SK)[USRA] wrote:

> Statalisters;
> In response to a reviewer's suggestion, I'm creating some Bland  
> Altman plots (using concord.ado) on a panel dataset, where two  
> parallel observations are made on subjects repeatedly over different  
> speeds at a task. I'm doing this for a few outcomes, but have shown  
> a sample below from the first 2 subjects:
>     +---------------------------------------+
>     | subject   speed       rer0       rer1 |
>     |---------------------------------------|
>  1. |       1       0   .9453608   .8185958 |
>  2. |       1       2   .7703036   .7761767 |
>  3. |       1       3   .7817145   .8262445 |
>  4. |       1       4   .8781749   .8886828 |
>  5. |       1       5   .9401777   1.012666 |
>  6. |       1       6   .9988574   1.080287 |
>     |---------------------------------------|
>  7. |       2       0   .9489434   .8451807 |
>  8. |       2       2   .8366485   .7932663 |
>  9. |       2       3   .8556526   .8569991 |
> 10. |       2       4   .8677133   .8986406 |
> 11. |       2       5    .946165   .9572051 |
> 12. |       2       6   .9317179   .9195401 |
>     |---------------------------------------|
>
> I don't normally use BA plots, but for now I'm trying to appease a  
> pesky reviewer.  My question is targeted to those of you who use or  
> have an interested in the BA plots...  Since my data are clustered  
> on subject, what's the best approach to plot BA-like associations  
> between means and diffs on the two outcomes? I'm trying to limit the  
> number of BA plots, as the paper already has better plots showing  
> the effects of speed (and other vars) on these two repeated  
> observations. But I have a reviewer who's really stuck on the BA plot.
>
> I'm starting with:
>
> concord rer0 rer1, loa(regline noref)
>
> But troubled by the clustering of observations within subject.
>
>
> Ideas?
> Rob
>
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