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st: RE: RE: RE: re: the future of statistical computing


From   "Mak, Timothy" <[email protected]>
To   "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Subject   st: RE: RE: RE: re: the future of statistical computing
Date   Tue, 27 Jan 2009 11:08:33 +0000

Sorry, that was rash of me to question Kit's honesty. I sincerely appreciated his help in this matter. 

Tim


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Nick Cox
Sent: 26 January 2009 18:02
To: [email protected]
Subject: st: RE: RE: re: the future of statistical computing

Tim has a point in that Stata won't include connections to data points
not included on a graph. You'd have to fudge that by working out where
each line segment would enter or leave the plot region and adding extra
graph elements, but at a first guess it wouldn't be trivial. Many Stata
users have long since internalised this as a natural attitude, a feature
not a limitation. Personally I will willingly concede this as something
R will do and Stata won't. 

By the way, I am sure that Kit _is_ honestly happy with this situation. 

Nick 
[email protected] 

Mak, Timothy

But I'm sure you can't honestly be happy with leaving out that last
observation. The issue is not whether it's the last observation or not.
It could be in the middle. What about Line 2, it has an observation
that's within the range. What if I've got line 3, 4, 5 as well which all
have observations within range. I imagine that you might just leave out
Line 1's outlying observation, but that's ambiguous - it suggests a
missing value. 

More often, it's not the point itself that's outside the range, but the
error bar. I just flipped through a nature magazine (it's the only one I
have), and found an example of this: Vol 452(7190): p.985, Fig 3. In
fact, I guess one guage of how good a software's graphical capability is
is to look through a journal and see how many of the graphs can be
reproduced. Sometimes it's not whether you think the graph is sensible
that counts - it's what the editor of the journal thinks. 


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