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Re: st:Why fixed effect estimates are different using Stata and SPSS?


From   "Mandy fu" <[email protected]>
To   [email protected]
Subject   Re: st:Why fixed effect estimates are different using Stata and SPSS?
Date   Tue, 6 Jan 2009 21:34:48 -0500

Hi all,

Thanks for all the replies! The explanation and suggestion I got from
you guys make a lot of sense. I find  that the result from
-xtreg,mle- is the same as the method in SPSS using ML instead RMLE.

Thanks very much!

Mandy

On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 9:21 PM, Kieran McCaul
<[email protected]> wrote:
> SPSS is using REML whereas -xtreg- is using ML.
> -xtreg- doesn't allow you to use REML, but -xtmixed- does.
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mandy fu
> Sent: Wednesday, 7 January 2009 9:50 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: st:Why fixed effect estimates are different using Stata and
> SPSS?
>
> Hi Mr. Samuels,
>
> Thanks for  helping out! I really apprecaite it.
> Sorry to bother you again . After adding the statement that I forgot,
> the SPSS result is still different from Stata. It'll be great if you
> could give me some suggestion how to revise the commands to get the
> same result as Stata.  Thanks a lot!
> Mandy
>
> Here's the command revised:
> ------------------------------------------SPSS--------------------------
> ------------------------------------
> MIXED lnhr WITH lnwg kids ageh agesq disab
>  /FIXED=lnwg kids ageh agesq disab | SSTYPE(3)
>  /METHOD=REML
>  /RANDOM = INTERCEPT  |  SUBJECT(id)
>  /PRINT=SOLUTION.
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> -----------------------------------------------------------
> 95%
> Confidence Interval
> Parameter       Estimate        Std. Error      df      t       Sig.
> Lower Bound      Upper Bound
> Intercept       7.208567        .104325 3713.093        69.097  .000
> 7.004028        7.413106
> lnwg    .116703 .013741 2092.169        8.493   .000    .089756 .143650
> kids    .004658 .004943 3000.492        .942    .346    -.005035
> .014351
> ageh    .007799 .005394 3935.455        1.446   .148    -.002777
> .018374
> agesq   -.000102        6.778785E-53744.521     -1.509  .131    -.000235
> 3.063344E-5
> disab   -.069206        .017256 5231.818        -4.011  .000    -.103034
> -.035377
> ---------------------------------------------------------
>
> On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 7:10 PM, Steven Samuels
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> The two setups are not comparable.  In your SPSS syntax, you left out
> a
>> statement like:
>> /RANDOM = INTERCEPT | SUBJECT(id)
>>
>> -Steve
>> On Jan 6, 2009, at 7:01 PM, Mandy fu wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
> -----------------------------STATA--------------------------------------
> --------------------------------------
>>> . xtset id
>>> . xtreg lnhr lnwg kids ageh agesq disab,fe
>>>
>>>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ----------------------------------
>>>        lnhr |      Coef.   Std. Err.      t    P>|t|     [95% Conf.
>>> Interval]
>>>        lnwg |   .1647719   .0189379     8.70   0.000     .1276448
>>>  .2018989
>>>        kids |  -.0011805   .0062019    -0.19   0.849    -.0133391
>>>  .0109781
>>>        ageh |   .0142179   .0063804     2.23   0.026     .0017095
>>>  .0267263
>>>       agesq |  -.0001676   .0000814    -2.06   0.039    -.0003272
>>> -8.10e-06
>>>       disab |  -.0628007   .0185922    -3.38   0.001      -.09925
>>> -.0263514
>>>       _cons |   6.945659   .1258117    55.21   0.000      6.69901
>>>  7.192308
>>> _____________________________________________________________________
>>> ----------------------------------SPSS----------------------------
>>> MIXED lnhr WITH lnwg kids ageh agesq disab
>>>   E(0.000001, ABSOLUTE)
>>>  /FIXED=lnwg kids ageh agesq disab | SSTYPE(3)
>>>  /METHOD=REML
>>>  /PRINT=SOLUTION.
>>>
>>>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> -------------
>>> Parameter Estimate      Std. Error      df      t       Sig.
>>> Intercept       7.467766        .083797 5314.000        89.117  .000
>>> lnwg    .082290 .009305 5314.000        8.844   .000
>>> kids    .007982 .003652 5314.000        2.186   .029
>>> ageh    -.000745        .004363 5314.000        -.171   .864
>>> agesq   -1.681402E-6    5.407029E-5     5314.000        -.031   .975
>>> disab   -.095341        .016312 5314    -5.845  .000
>>>
>>>
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