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Re: st: THANKS==>>Best laptop specifications to run version 9.0 and 10


From   Adrian Gonzalez <agonzalezmix@yahoo.com>
To   statalist@hsphsun2.harvard.edu
Subject   Re: st: THANKS==>>Best laptop specifications to run version 9.0 and 10
Date   Fri, 3 Oct 2008 07:35:16 -0700 (PDT)

I want to thank you all for your advice.  I got 12 replies on this issue.
Have a great weekend


--- On Thu, 10/2/08, José Luis Chávez Calva <josechc@gmail.com> wrote:

> From: José Luis Chávez Calva <josechc@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: st: Best laptop specifications to run version 9.0 and 10
> To: statalist@hsphsun2.harvard.edu
> Date: Thursday, October 2, 2008, 6:31 PM
> The best machine would be one with 4gb, a multicore
> processor (like
> Core 2 Duo or AMD Turion 64), a very fast hard drive (7200
> rpm or
> solid disk) and a OS over 64 bits (like WinXP64 or Vista
> 64), but
> working with STATA 10 MP 64 bits. Disadvantage: STATA 10
> MP, too good,
> too expensive for the commons.
> 
> 2008/10/2 Rafal Raciborski <rraciborski@gmail.com>:
> > i have a number of windows "services" turned
> off as well as areo,
> > maybe that helps?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 5:37 PM, Martin Weiss
> <martin.weiss1@gmx.de> wrote:
> >> What`s your secret then?
> >>
> >> HTH
> >> Martin
> >> _______________________
> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rafal
> Raciborski"
> >> <rraciborski@gmail.com>
> >> To: <statalist@hsphsun2.harvard.edu>
> >> Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2008 11:36 PM
> >> Subject: Re: st: Best laptop specifications to run
> version 9.0 and 10
> >>
> >>
> >>> i have a year old hp laptop with vista
> business and 2g ram and never
> >>> had problem setting memory to 1400m
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 5:27 PM, Martin Weiss
> <martin.weiss1@gmx.de> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> My laptop runs Vista Ultimate 32bit with
> 3G of Ram. I used to be able to
> >>>> -set mem 1000m-, sometimes, when I got
> lucky, 1100m. Then, after a few
> >>>> months, it went downhill dramatically. Now
> I never make it past 500m.
> >>>> Bottom
> >>>> line: big jobs in Stata belong on a
> desktop computer, preferably with a
> >>>> 64bit OS (and 64bit Stata)...
> >>>>
> >>>> HTH
> >>>> Martin
> >>>> _______________________
> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From:
> "Lachenbruch, Peter"
> >>>> <Peter.Lachenbruch@oregonstate.edu>
> >>>> To: <statalist@hsphsun2.harvard.edu>
> >>>> Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2008 11:22 PM
> >>>> Subject: RE: st: Best laptop
> specifications to run version 9.0 and 10
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> I just got a new computer with Vista
> (Business) on it.  I had some
> >>>>> problems installing Stata 10 on the
> machine - partly there were
> >>>>> incompatibilities with the operating
> system, but a call to tech-support
> >>>>> got it fixed.  The other part of the
> problems were caused by my
> >>>>> inverting two letters in the code to
> unlock Stata - I'd like to blame
> >>>>> someone else, but I can't. 
> Anyway, huge compliments to Kevin Crow of
> >>>>> Stata
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Tony
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Peter A. Lachenbruch
> >>>>> Department of Public Health
> >>>>> Oregon State University
> >>>>> Corvallis, OR 97330
> >>>>> Phone: 541-737-3832
> >>>>> FAX: 541-737-4001
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>> From:
> owner-statalist@hsphsun2.harvard.edu
> >>>>>
> [mailto:owner-statalist@hsphsun2.harvard.edu] On Behalf Of
> David Kantor
> >>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2008 1:51
> PM
> >>>>> To: statalist@hsphsun2.harvard.edu
> >>>>> Subject: Re: st: Best laptop
> specifications to run version 9.0 and 10
> >>>>>
> >>>>> At 03:45 PM 10/2/2008, Adrian wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> [...]
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I want to know what are the best
> specifications for a laptop in
> >>>>>> order to run Stata with a big
> dataset, that keeps growing.  I am not
> >>>>>> doing a lot of statistical
> simualtions, but from time to time need
> >>>>>> to run some marginal effects for
> logits/ probits and when I RESHAPE
> >>>>>> some of the databases, it takes
> over 20 minutes in my current laptop
> >>>>>> (over 3 years old).
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> One of the main issues i am facing
> in my current laptop, is that if
> >>>>>> keeping other applications running
> (excel, or outlook) makes stata
> >>>>>> to fail to save files back in my
> hardisk
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Laptop is important because I
> telecomute and mobility is a plus.  I
> >>>>>> guess the question can be framed
> as what is more important RAM
> >>>>>> versus proccessor speed?  Or AMD
> versus Intel processors?  Speed of
> >>>>>
> >>>>> hard disk?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> is there any other configuration
> specification that I am overlooking?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I you have bought a new laptop
> recently to run stata, i appreciate
> >>>>>> if you can let me know the
> particular specs and budget
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> thanks
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Adrian
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Let me step around your question. When
> you experience these episodes
> >>>>> of slow performance, you might be
> using virtual memory. If so, then a
> >>>>> memory upgrade may be what you need,
> rather than a whole new
> >>>>> computer. Generally a memory upgrade
> can significantly improve
> >>>>> performance in many situations, and is
> much more economical than
> >>>>> getting a new computer.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> You said that the presence of other
> applications causes Stata to fail
> >>>>> to do certain things. That
> shouldn't happen; it might slow thing down
> >>>>> to a crawl, but it shouldn't cause
> any other effects within Stata. If
> >>>>> that's really happening, I'd
> call it an operating system problem.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On the other hand, when I need to use
> large amount of memory, I'm
> >>>>> inclined to close down all those other
> applications (and run only one
> >>>>> instance of Stata) -- to avoid those
> problems.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If you do get a new computer, and if
> you run procedures that involve
> >>>>> a lot of temp files (e.g., -reshape-),
> then you may want to go for a
> >>>>> fast hard drive.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If you do get a new computer, and
> it's a PC, you may be forced into
> >>>>> getting Vista, which some people find
> to be a disadvantage. That's a
> >>>>> whole other story.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> HTH
> >>>>> --David
> >>>>>
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