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"Carlo Lazzaro" <carlo.lazzaro@tin.it> |

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st: R: Re: R: Survival Analysis Censoring stset |

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Thu, 18 Sep 2008 19:11:10 +0200 |

Dear Dirk, thanks a lot for your further clarifications about your previous posting. Provided that you are dealing with an interval censoring, I would refer you to Cleves MA, Gould WG, Gutierrez R. An Introduction To Survival Analysis > Using Stata. 2nd edition. College Station: StataPress, 2006: pag: 32-33 and Chapter 9. Sorry I cannot be more helpful. Kind Regards, Carlo -----Messaggio originale----- Da: owner-statalist@hsphsun2.harvard.edu [mailto:owner-statalist@hsphsun2.harvard.edu] Per conto di Dirk Volland Inviato: giovedì 18 settembre 2008 17.58 A: statalist@hsphsun2.harvard.edu Oggetto: st: Re: R: Survival Analysis Censoring stset Hello again, thank you Carlo. It seems that my description has been a little confusing. So here another try: (1) The structure of the data with multiple episodes for each id is id | year0 | year1 | failure 1 | 2002 | 2003 | 0 1 | 2003 | 2004 | 0 1 | 2004 | 2005 | 1 stset with the command stset year1, id(id) failure(failure) With no gaps I meant that annual data is always available (2002 2003 2004 ... without missing years). Is this data interval censored just because it is discrete and the failure event can only be measured at year1 meaning the exact time between year0 and year1 is not available? Is this handled by Stata in an appropriate manner? (2) When I stset data with the command stset year1, id(id) origin(time founding) enter(time start) Here founding contains the time when the subject first came at risk and start contains the time the observation window starts. So in a way I know when a company was founded, but I want to start analysis in a certain year. Are these observations still left censored (in comparison to just deleting records that are prior to the observation window)? Is this handled by Stata? Thanks a lot, dirk 2008/9/18 Carlo Lazzaro <carlo.lazzaro@tin.it>: > Dear Dirk, > as far as your first question is concerned: > > - it seems to me that your following statements "time span as 2006 and 2007 > without gaps" and "the exact time between year0 and year1" conflate. > Should your analysis start in 2006 (that is, t0)and stop in 2007 (that is, > t1), some companies will have gone to bankruptcy (that is failure=1) and > other will have survived (that is, failure=0). The latter are right-censored > observations, since they might go to bankruptcy (or not) in the future and, > anyhow you will not know, since you have stopped your analysis. > - stset - will automatically account for censored observations. > > For further details on this topic, I will recommend you to take a thorough > look at: > Cleves MA, Gould WG, Gutierrez R. An Introduction To Survival Analysis > Using Stata. 2nd edition. College Station: StataPress, 2006; > [ST] Stata manual. Survival analysis and epidemiological table. Release 9 > > Two other relevant contributors of the Statalist - Maarten Buis > (http://home.fsw.vu.nl/m.buis/) and Stephen Jenkins > (http://www.iser.essex.ac.uk/teaching/degree/stephenj/ec968/index.php.) > published really interesting papers as well as teaching-notes on the topics > you are interested in. > > HTH and Kind Regards, > > Carlo > > -----Messaggio originale----- > Da: owner-statalist@hsphsun2.harvard.edu > [mailto:owner-statalist@hsphsun2.harvard.edu] Per conto di Dirk Volland > Inviato: giovedì 18 settembre 2008 15.29 > A: statalist@hsphsun2.harvard.edu > Oggetto: st: Survival Analysis Censoring stset > > Hello, > > i have to quesitons regarding censoring and how it is handled in > Stata's survival package. > > (1) When I have the following data structure: > > id | year0 | year1 | failure > > stset with the command > > stset year1, id(id) failure(failure) > > and year0 and year1 always represents a time span as 2006 and 2007 > without gaps. Is this data interval censored just because it is > discrete and the failure event can only be measured at year1 meaning > the exact time between year0 and year1 is not available? Is this > handled by Stata in an appropriate manner? > > (2) When I stset data with the command > > stset year1, id(id) origin(time founding) enter(time start) > > Here founding contains the time when the subject first came at risk > and start contains the time the observation window starts. So in a way > I know when a company was founded, but I want to start analysis in a > certain year. Are these observations still left censored? Is this > handled by Stata? > > Thanks for any help, > > best wished, > > dirk > > * > * For searches and help try: > * http://www.stata.com/help.cgi?search > * http://www.stata.com/support/statalist/faq > * http://www.ats.ucla.edu/stat/stata/ > > > -- Dirk Volland mobile +358468948277 skype junin7 ! new Email: vollanddirk@gmail.com * * For searches and help try: * http://www.stata.com/help.cgi?search * http://www.stata.com/support/statalist/faq * http://www.ats.ucla.edu/stat/stata/ * * For searches and help try: * http://www.stata.com/help.cgi?search * http://www.stata.com/support/statalist/faq * http://www.ats.ucla.edu/stat/stata/

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