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Re: st: statalist problems


From   Marcello Pagano <pagano@hsph.harvard.edu>
To   statalist@hsphsun2.harvard.edu
Subject   Re: st: statalist problems
Date   Sat, 30 Aug 2008 15:07:27 -0400

I have been watching these complaints and I don't see anything I can out my finger on. We used to have a problem years ago about the first person on the list and the last person on the list and the disparity in the time it took to send to them. We solved that problem and now it is just a matter of minutes between the mailing from here of the first and last copy of a message. That used to be an accurate indicator of the time it took to receive the mailings. Now that is no longer the case, and the main reason is the spammers which has, of course, given rise to the spam detectors. There is nothing we can do at this end to overcome this problem; it is a universal problem, and a local problem at your end.

Over the years we have "unsubscribed" a number of people because of problems along the way from here to you. We can tell there is a problem because your mail bounces back. At first we tried to resolve the problem in each instance. It got to be too much of a hassle, especially since these problems were *never* at this end, so we came up with the current, defensive and somewhat Draconian solution.

I wish someone would be more specific with their problem(s) (especially after they have read http://www.stata.com/support/statalist/faq). We cannot respond to generalities, beyond a general statement like this one, nor can we do anything about your spam detectors, nor your internet links.

m.p.


On 8/30/2008 1:38 PM, Martin Weiss wrote:

At the Chicago meeting in July, I heard a few complaints about Statalist. With the variance in the experiences with this issue so high, I simply suspect that IT departments around the world treat emails differently. I do eventually get all the messages, but at weird times and in a weird order. Trouble is, the "duplication of effort" is significant on Statalist, with -quite often- three posters providing in essence the same reply. While some overlap between answers in inevitable, I would like to see faster delivery to prevent this...


Martin



Quoting Christian Weiß <mail@cweiss.org>:


same problem here....


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On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 8:55 AM, Ashim Kapoor <ashimkapoor@gmail.com> wrote:

I have not experienced this. ALL my posts show up instantly ( say at
the most with a delay of a minute or 2 maybe!)

Thank you,
Ashim.

On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 1:29 AM, David Bell <dcbell@iupui.edu> wrote:
A certain proportion of Statalist messages (on the order of around 5%) go
into my Junk mail folder. I have never been able to determine any
differences in the To:, Cc:, Subject:, or Reply-To: fields to explain this
phenomenon. So as far as I have been able to tell, the problem is not at
the Statalist end.
Dave
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Professor of Sociology
Indiana University Purdue University Indianapolis (IUPUI)
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On Aug 29, 2008, at 3:37 PM, Ziad El-Khatib wrote:


I also faced this problem: either email doesn't show up at all or it
does after 1-2 hours?
Best regards
ziad


On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 11:01 AM, Sergiy Radyakin
<serjradyakin@gmail.com> wrote:

All of my replies sooner or later show up in the list, however this is
not always true for the new queries (new threads), that's why I am
often stealing someone else's thread once it's almost resolved to ask
a related question of my own. I also often get the replies first and
the questions that started the thread arrive hours later. I am quite
confident that this happened months ago, not only in the last two
months. Another problem is that sometimes there are empty messages
containing only automatic signatures of some sort show up, but that
might be a "human factor" - somebody wanted to respond and hit "send"
too early. We've also seen several spam messages occasionally with
people donating millions of dollars to us. Otherwise it's ok.

[gmail.com account]

Regards, Sergiy



On 8/29/08, Jeph Herrin <junk@spandrel.net> wrote:


Is it just me, or has statalist become a bit more
erratic in delivery of late? Over the last say two
months I find that (compared with the archive) I
lose approximately 1/3 of the posts. This is consistent
with about 1/3 of my own posts never showing up on
the list.

It may be that my email service (Earthlink) is trapping
them, but before I try to take on them, I thought I'd
see if others had the same experience.

thanks,

Jeph
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