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Re: st: svy: tabulate or proportions
Steven Samuels <email@example.com>
Re: st: svy: tabulate or proportions
Wed, 30 Jul 2008 16:45:30 -0500
Ouch! I meant "the responses that Stas, Sergiy, and I wrote"! The
last time I so mixed up names, I called Nick Cox, "Professor Cross",
after an old colleague. Apologies to all concerned.
Chao, As far as I can tell, you haven't asked a different question
here. If you reread the responses that Austin and I wrote, I'm sure
you will find your question answered.
On Jul 29, 2008, at 4:54 PM, Chao Yawo wrote:
> Thanks very much. I probably wasn't too clear in my original post
> I am examining the relationship between HIV testing behaviors (whether
> people plan to take the test, etc) and a number of socio-demographic
> and epidemiological variables. At a minimum, I wanted to understand
> the distribution of all my predictors before running crostabs
> I know svy: tab can produce both the estimated proportions (just like
> the %s displayed in frequency tables) and the crosstab estimates. And
> both of these allow one to make assumptions about the underlying
> Hence the question -- whether it is appropriate to use the svy:
> estimation commands once I am dealing with such a survey sample... or
> to revert to non-survey commands.
> thanks - CY
> On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 12:36 PM, Stas Kolenikov
> <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote:
>> On 7/25/08, Chao Yawo <Yawo1964@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> I am using svy commands to analyze a DHS dataset.
>>> As a usual prerequisite, I want to run some descriptive
>>> statistics on
>>> my sample. I can use the regular tabulate or fre commainnd to
>>> frequency distributions.
>>> However, I realized that svy has a "tabulate" or "proportions"
>>> that could produce frequency distributions/estimates per
>>> variable. I
>>> run both and realized slight differences between the two
>>> Which one should I use - I am leaning towards using the one with
>>> svy: prefix.
>>> I would appreciate any thoughts and pointers.
>> Well as Steven said, what is it exactly that you want to figure out?
>> If you want to see whether you have cells with zero or low counts,
>> then either -tab- or -svy : tab- will do. If you want to get any idea
>> of the underlying population, you MUST use -svy-.
>> Let's think through a grocery shopping example. Suppose somebody
>> looked at your fridge and counted how many gallons of milk you have
>> there, how many eggs, the total weight of vegetables, etc. If they
>> want to figure out a diet of a given person, then that's all the data
>> they need. If they wanted to figure out what's available in your
>> grocery store, or what's a diet of an average person, then there is
>> more work to do: they need to figure out how often you buy any
>> particular food. May be you are a vegetarian, and skip the meat rows
>> in your supermarket -- so your fridge will not provide any
>> about meat consumption, and estimates of protein intake based on your
>> fridge only will be biased. The "how frequently" question is what you
>> also know as sampling weights, based on inverse probabilities of
>> So if you want something that's specific to your sample, you can have
>> a go without -svy- options. Will that be interesting to anybody?
>> Probably not. Whichever summaries you want to produce out of your
>> will only be interesting to the extent that they describe the
>> population -- and then you need to use the survey design information.
>> Stas Kolenikov, also found at http://stas.kolenikov.name
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