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RE: st: RE: RE: labels on bar graphs

From   "Nick Cox" <>
To   <>
Subject   RE: st: RE: RE: labels on bar graphs
Date   Tue, 1 Jul 2008 15:12:26 +0100

A percent format (with notional syntax) might look something like this: 

With format %2.0p     .15   would display as 15 
            %3.1p     .154                   15.4 
            %2.0ps    .15                    15%
		%2.0pbs   .15                    15 %
            %3,1pbs   .151                   15,1 % 

So that p signals percent, s an explicit sign and b an explicit blank
before the sign. 

I believe that this would solve Rich's problem completely. I don't
understand Frank's comments to the contrary. 

Of course, that is all a "would". Only StataCorp can do that, or
something similar. 

Meanwhile, I intend to update -mylabels- on SSC to allow user-specified
prefix and suffix text. That is one thing that can be done as a step in
the same direction. 

Incidentally, I also disagree with Frank, very mildly, on the broadening
of this thread. Martin's comments seemed to me a fair expression of a
defensible point of view that was entirely consistent with Rich's
original question. 


Richard Goldstein

I think that if Stata had an automatic way to turn proportions (mean of 
a 0/1 variable) to percents, with the percent sign (as an option I 
guess), that would have completely solved my problem

Since my client is insisting on the presence of the % sign, the simple 
solution (multiply by 100) sent by Amanda does not work for me

Martin Weiss 

> Well, obviously I hit a sore spot with my "straw man", given that it
> attracted a few replies... Maybe I should have turned that into a new
> though, to keep Rich`s other concerns alive. Sorry for that.

Frank de Libero
> Rich originally asked for help not only to display "%" but much more.
> how I read his message (below). Then Martin (see below Rich's message)
> introduces what seems to be a straw man:
> [Why should users be forced] go to such lengths for a mundane task
> labeling with percentages...
> And the thread then went adrift given the general frustration
> mine) about not having an enhanced -format- that includes "%". But as
I read
> Rich's original post, he was asking for a method that helped automate
> placement and value of the label, and then attaching a "%". The
> solutions" were not so much about displaying a "%" as they were about
> to display it and automatically display the value. A simple change in
> -format- command or equivalent would not solve all that. I think the
> subsequent aspersions on Stata are unfair and stray from the original
> question.

Martin Weiss

> All these clever solutions have a funny tendency to remind me of one
> a software that takes prides in its graph capabilities should not
> users to go to such lengths for a mundane task like labeling with
> percentages...

Richard Goldstein
> I need to produce a sizable number of bar graphs for a client.  The 
> client wants the y-axis to be labeled as, e.g., "15%" rather than as, 
> e.g., .15.  The range of proportions for these graphs varies quite a
> (from a max of less than .05 to a max of over .2) so I don't want to 
> force them all to be the same.
> After seeing a graph, it is easy enough to use the ylabel option to
> what I want.  Given that I am generally willing to live with Stata's 
> automatic choice of tick marks, is there a way to automatically get 
> labels in the form I want (e.g., "15%") rather than the way Stata
> (e.g., .15)?

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