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Re: st: Stata on Mac or PC


From   "Stefano Costalli" <stefano.costalli@imtlucca.it>
To   statalist@hsphsun2.harvard.edu
Subject   Re: st: Stata on Mac or PC
Date   Thu, 26 Jun 2008 17:27:26 +0200

well...guys..the issue seems to be of interest to many people! 
I got some precious information. Thanks a lot for the moment!
S.

-----Original message-----
From: David Airey david.airey@Vanderbilt.Edu
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 16:20:39 +0200
To: statalist@hsphsun2.harvard.edu
Subject: Re: st: Stata on Mac or PC

> .
> 
> On OS X Leopard, you can create a Windows partition on your HD and  
> boot natively to XP or Vista as you like. In this instance it is truly  
> a WIndows PC, and actually beats a number of Windows PCs in  
> performance. Alternatively, you can buy WIndows emulation software  
> (Parallels is my favorite) that allows you to run OSs side by side,  
> and actually copy and paste between windows and mac applications. This  
> mode is a little slower, but is faster than slow PC chips running  
> natively, and is very convenient. I run SAS Proc Mixed via Parallels  
> and Mplus and I have had no issues. Currently not all SAS products  
> support Vista, so you will want to run XP until 9.2 comes out. With  
> regard to Microsoft Office 2008 for the Mac, the latest update  
> (12.1.1, I think) fixes a lot of bugs that made passing files back and  
> forth with Office 2007 (like missing spaces). MS Office 2008 doesn't  
> have visual basic support for Excel like MS Office 2007 does, although  
> MS promised to put it "back in", how kind. So there are some issues,  
> but they are disappearing as I write...I think the key to most  
> potential switchers is the Windows is still available on the mac. Most  
> find they gravitate towards spending most of their time in Leopard  
> when they do buy a mac. Stata is great on the mac, and will be more so  
> when the 64 bit version comes out. One thing that bothers me is the  
> high cost to Stata with 8 cores. More cores are the future of  
> computing, so is the future of Stata higher prices???
> 
> 
> 
> On Jun 26, 2008, at 10:07 AM, Data Analytics Corp. wrote:
> 
> > Good morning,
> >
> > I've been watching the exchange on this issue.  I'm more curious  
> > right now about Phil's statement that "you can even run Linux or  
> > Windows (without a performance penalty and without dual-booting) if  
> > you need to" on an Intel MAC machine.  I'm thinking about buying one  
> > even though I already have a ThinkPad running Vista.  I'm looking  
> > for more input about running Windows software (Stata, S-Plus, SAS  
> > primarily) on the MAC as well as creating Word and PowerPoint files  
> > on the MAC that my Window's based client can read.  Any comments or  
> > suggestions?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Walt
> >
> >
> > Phil Schumm wrote:
> >> On Jun 26, 2008, at 8:24 AM, Stefano Costalli wrote:
> >>> I have a non-Stata question, but I need an answer to use stata at  
> >>> its best!
> >>> So far I have used Stata 9.2 SE on my laptop (IBM T series), but  
> >>> now I have to give it back to my department and I have some  
> >>> doubts. I'm choosing between the new version of IBM T Series and  
> >>> Macbook pro. My old IBM worked very well, but I like also the  
> >>> Macbook pro. Unfortunately I don't have colleagues or friends who  
> >>> use Stata on a Mac machine. Could anyone give me some feedback?  
> >>> Has anyone done any comparison? Good functioning of Stata will be  
> >>> an essential variable in my decision..
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks to StataCorp, you pretty much get the same Stata experience  
> >> on any OS they support.  There are some minor GUI differences, of  
> >> course; being primarily an OS X user, I vastly prefer the OS X  
> >> version (e.g., fonts look better, interface is cleaner, etc.).   
> >> But, I'll admit, there's an element of subjectivity to this.
> >>
> >> One current issue for OS X is that the 64-bit version of Stata for  
> >> OS X is not yet available.  It is, however, under active  
> >> development, and may be available by the end of the year (see http://www.stata.com/statalist/archive/2008-05/msg00916.html) 
> >> .  Thus, unless you need the 64-bit version immediately, this  
> >> shouldn't be an issue.
> >>
> >> Given that Stata is pretty much the same on every platform, the  
> >> choice then really boils down to other factors.  And for scientific  
> >> computing, an Intel Mac is a shining star.  You have the full power  
> >> of Unix with a nice GUI, and, with the Intel Macs, you can even run  
> >> Linux or Windows (without a performance penalty and without dual- 
> >> booting) if you need to.
> >>
> >> One more thing: unless you're a die-hard Emacs (or perhaps even vi)  
> >> user, one of the single best text editors available (TextMate) is  
> >> only available for the Mac.  TextMate makes coding, writing, etc. a  
> >> dream, and is fantastic for editing Stata do-files.  Even if I  
> >> didn't already prefer OS X for other reasons, I'd still consider  
> >> TextMate a reason to switch.
> >>
> >>
> >> -- Phil
> >>
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> >
> >
> > -- 
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> >
> > Walter R. Paczkowski, Ph.D.
> > Data Analytics Corp.
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