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Re: st: Stata on Mac or PC
"Stefano Costalli" <email@example.com>
Re: st: Stata on Mac or PC
Thu, 26 Jun 2008 17:27:26 +0200
well...guys..the issue seems to be of interest to many people!
I got some precious information. Thanks a lot for the moment!
From: David Airey david.airey@Vanderbilt.Edu
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 16:20:39 +0200
Subject: Re: st: Stata on Mac or PC
> On OS X Leopard, you can create a Windows partition on your HD and
> boot natively to XP or Vista as you like. In this instance it is truly
> a WIndows PC, and actually beats a number of Windows PCs in
> performance. Alternatively, you can buy WIndows emulation software
> (Parallels is my favorite) that allows you to run OSs side by side,
> and actually copy and paste between windows and mac applications. This
> mode is a little slower, but is faster than slow PC chips running
> natively, and is very convenient. I run SAS Proc Mixed via Parallels
> and Mplus and I have had no issues. Currently not all SAS products
> support Vista, so you will want to run XP until 9.2 comes out. With
> regard to Microsoft Office 2008 for the Mac, the latest update
> (12.1.1, I think) fixes a lot of bugs that made passing files back and
> forth with Office 2007 (like missing spaces). MS Office 2008 doesn't
> have visual basic support for Excel like MS Office 2007 does, although
> MS promised to put it "back in", how kind. So there are some issues,
> but they are disappearing as I write...I think the key to most
> potential switchers is the Windows is still available on the mac. Most
> find they gravitate towards spending most of their time in Leopard
> when they do buy a mac. Stata is great on the mac, and will be more so
> when the 64 bit version comes out. One thing that bothers me is the
> high cost to Stata with 8 cores. More cores are the future of
> computing, so is the future of Stata higher prices???
> On Jun 26, 2008, at 10:07 AM, Data Analytics Corp. wrote:
> > Good morning,
> > I've been watching the exchange on this issue. I'm more curious
> > right now about Phil's statement that "you can even run Linux or
> > Windows (without a performance penalty and without dual-booting) if
> > you need to" on an Intel MAC machine. I'm thinking about buying one
> > even though I already have a ThinkPad running Vista. I'm looking
> > for more input about running Windows software (Stata, S-Plus, SAS
> > primarily) on the MAC as well as creating Word and PowerPoint files
> > on the MAC that my Window's based client can read. Any comments or
> > suggestions?
> > Thanks,
> > Walt
> > Phil Schumm wrote:
> >> On Jun 26, 2008, at 8:24 AM, Stefano Costalli wrote:
> >>> I have a non-Stata question, but I need an answer to use stata at
> >>> its best!
> >>> So far I have used Stata 9.2 SE on my laptop (IBM T series), but
> >>> now I have to give it back to my department and I have some
> >>> doubts. I'm choosing between the new version of IBM T Series and
> >>> Macbook pro. My old IBM worked very well, but I like also the
> >>> Macbook pro. Unfortunately I don't have colleagues or friends who
> >>> use Stata on a Mac machine. Could anyone give me some feedback?
> >>> Has anyone done any comparison? Good functioning of Stata will be
> >>> an essential variable in my decision..
> >> Thanks to StataCorp, you pretty much get the same Stata experience
> >> on any OS they support. There are some minor GUI differences, of
> >> course; being primarily an OS X user, I vastly prefer the OS X
> >> version (e.g., fonts look better, interface is cleaner, etc.).
> >> But, I'll admit, there's an element of subjectivity to this.
> >> One current issue for OS X is that the 64-bit version of Stata for
> >> OS X is not yet available. It is, however, under active
> >> development, and may be available by the end of the year (see http://www.stata.com/statalist/archive/2008-05/msg00916.html)
> >> . Thus, unless you need the 64-bit version immediately, this
> >> shouldn't be an issue.
> >> Given that Stata is pretty much the same on every platform, the
> >> choice then really boils down to other factors. And for scientific
> >> computing, an Intel Mac is a shining star. You have the full power
> >> of Unix with a nice GUI, and, with the Intel Macs, you can even run
> >> Linux or Windows (without a performance penalty and without dual-
> >> booting) if you need to.
> >> One more thing: unless you're a die-hard Emacs (or perhaps even vi)
> >> user, one of the single best text editors available (TextMate) is
> >> only available for the Mac. TextMate makes coding, writing, etc. a
> >> dream, and is fantastic for editing Stata do-files. Even if I
> >> didn't already prefer OS X for other reasons, I'd still consider
> >> TextMate a reason to switch.
> >> -- Phil
> >> *
> >> * For searches and help try:
> >> * http://www.stata.com/support/faqs/res/findit.html
> >> * http://www.stata.com/support/statalist/faq
> >> * http://www.ats.ucla.edu/stat/stata/
> > --
> > ________________________
> > Walter R. Paczkowski, Ph.D.
> > Data Analytics Corp.
> > 44 Hamilton Lane
> > Plainsboro, NJ 08536
> > ________________________
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> > (F) 609-936-3733
> > firstname.lastname@example.org
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> > *
> > * For searches and help try:
> > * http://www.stata.com/support/faqs/res/findit.html
> > * http://www.stata.com/support/statalist/faq
> > * http://www.ats.ucla.edu/stat/stata/
> * For searches and help try:
> * http://www.stata.com/support/faqs/res/findit.html
> * http://www.stata.com/support/statalist/faq
> * http://www.ats.ucla.edu/stat/stata/
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