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RE: st: Forest Plot


From   Maarten buis <maartenbuis@yahoo.co.uk>
To   statalist@hsphsun2.harvard.edu
Subject   RE: st: Forest Plot
Date   Wed, 19 Mar 2008 14:16:20 +0000 (GMT)

My answer, which started this thread on the propper name of the forest
plot, was just a case of lousy spelling (or an attempt to maintain my
non-native speaker charm)

Maarten

--- Nick Cox <n.j.cox@durham.ac.uk> wrote:

> At the risk of reminding many what they know already, but this is an
> international list: 
> 
> It seems that the term 'forest plot' was used informally for some
> years before
> it reached print. Often there is some selling line about seeing the
> wood for the trees. 
> That is, at least for native English speakers and perhaps for many
> others, a conscious play on a proverbial criticism: not being able to
> see the wood for the trees is missing a broad pattern through undue
> focus on the details. I guess every other language has some
> equivalent if not identical saying. 
> 
> That's standard, I think. But Richard Peto, no less, is credited with
> a joke attribution of the plot to a cancer researcher called Pat
> Forrest. Whether for that reason, or for others, or just as a matter
> of lousy spelling, the spellings "Forest", "forrest" and "Forrest"
> are probably all to be found somewhere. 
> 
> My main authority here, after a quick Google, is 
> 
> Lewis, S. and Clarke, M. 2001. 
> Forest plots: trying to see the wood and the trees. 
> British Medical Journal 322: 1479–1480.
> doi:10.1136/bmj.322.7300.1479.  
> 
> Many if not all list members will be able to read that directly on
> the net. 
> 
> Nick
> n.j.cox@durham.ac.uk 
> 
> Newson, Roger B
> 
> I think
> 
> findit forest plot
> 
> is the correct spelling. A forest plot is so called because the
> bottom-line summary confidence interval is like a forest, and the
> individual study confidence intervals are like the individual trees.
> It
> is not named after a "Professor Forrest".
> 
> If Sripal wants to create a customized Stata format for forest plots,
> then 2 useful tools might be -metaparm- (part of the -parmest-
> package)
> and -eclplot-. The -parmest- and -eclplot- packages are both
> downloadable from SSC using the -ssc- command. An example of a forest
> plot produced using -metaparm- can be viewed in the presentation of
> Newson (2006). The presentation, and the do-file to produce this
> forest
> plot, can be downloaded from my website at
> http://www.imperial.ac.uk/nhli/r.newson/papers.htm
> 
> Newson R. Resultssets, resultsspreadsheets and resultsplots in Stata.
> Presented at the 4th German Stata User Meeting, 31 March, 2006.
> Download from
> http://www.imperial.ac.uk/nhli/r.newson/papers.htm
> 
> Maarten Buis replied to Sripal Kumar 
> 
> > Is there a easier way to graph forest plots using stata for a
> > meta-analysis.  
> 
> In Stata type: findit forrest plot
> 
> 
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