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Re: st: Standard error of the estimate for svy: reg


From   Steven Samuels <sjhsamuels@earthlink.net>
To   statalist@hsphsun2.harvard.edu
Subject   Re: st: Standard error of the estimate for svy: reg
Date   Wed, 22 Aug 2007 17:24:00 -0400

Mike, I've acknowledged that different fields use different nomenclature. I really don't want to spend my own time discussing the issue. Others are welcome to do so.


-Steve
On Aug 22, 2007, at 4:31 PM, Michael Hanson wrote:


On Aug 22, 2007, at 3:23 PM, Steven Samuels wrote:

I'll leave this topic with the following reference:

http://www.bmj.com/cgi/content/full/331/7521/903

Steve
Since you've left this topic, you've foreclosed any opportunity to clarify the relevance of that citation. In my very quick read of it, nothing in the second- and third-to-last paragraphs seems to be inconsistent with the use of the terminology "standard error of the estimate" (or "standard error of the regression") that we have previously established is not uncommon in certain social sciences but apparently unknown to at least some people in other (biomedical?) fields; the remaining paragraphs appear to discuss other topics. I personally don't see a problem with different fields having different nomenclatures, and the point of my previous message was simply to indicate that the questioned term is not uncommon in certain (broad) fields of applied statistics.

With the discussion abruptly ended I gather that the implication was meant to be that certain fields (viz. the social sciences) were misusing a term. I would be interested in learning the substance of that argument, if in fact that was the case. Otherwise I am still puzzling over the contribution of the citation to the prior exchange.

-- Mike

P.S.: Stas's argument against the use of the RMSE/SEE in the OP's question sounds valid to me, but I do not claim any familiarity with estimation using survey data.

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