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Re: st: 'Normal' condition number vs GLAMM condition number

From   "Stas Kolenikov" <>
Subject   Re: st: 'Normal' condition number vs GLAMM condition number
Date   Fri, 1 Sep 2006 09:09:14 -0500

-gllamm-'s condition number is that of the information matrix /
covariance matrix of the estimated coefficients. -cmdnmb3-, it appears
to me (I've never used it), finds the condition number of the X'X
matrix, which is not particularly relevant for -gllamm- due to higher
order levels and possible non-linearities present.

See also:,

On 9/1/06, Richard Williams <> wrote:
>I have a question about condition numbers. When I calculate the condition
>number for my models using the add-on package cndnmb3 I get very acceptable
>values between 10 and 15. However, when I run the same models in GLAMM I get
>condition numbers between 400 and 600. Are these two different types of
>condition numbers and if so what is the acceptable range for each type and
>how do these two condition numbers differ? Or is one or the other program
>(cndnmb3 or GLAMM) calculating incorrectly the condition number?

I don't know, but if you want a tie-breaker you might try -collin-
and -coldiag2-, both of which will compute condition numbers, and, I
believe, give you different options for how to do it.  It may depend
on whether variables are being standardized first.

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