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Mark Schaffer <M.E.Schaffer@hw.ac.uk> |

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statalist@hsphsun2.harvard.edu, "James W. Shaw" <shaw@pharmacy.arizona.edu> |

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Re: st: How to perform Hausman test for random effects specification with survey data |

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Sat, 21 Aug 2004 21:54:07 +0100 (BST) |

James, I have a feeling there is something a little fishy going on here. The artificial regression test described by Wooldridge is, if I'm not mistaken, *exactly* the traditional Hausman test. More precisely, if you do the artificial regression version, and test all the testable coefficients using a standard (not robust) Wald test, you get a Hausman stat that is equivalent to the one you would get using -hausman- except that it's guaranteed to be positive-definite because it uses a single estimate of the error variance throughout. I'm a little suspicious of the fact that you can test more coefficients using the version of the test you developed. Of your 12 regressors, how many, if any, are time-invariant? Cheers, Mark Quoting "James W. Shaw" <shaw@pharmacy.arizona.edu>: > Mark, > > I performed Wooldridge's test as specified on p. 291 of his text. > Wooldridge's test converges on a certain set of results (F and p > values) > after four of the time-demeaned coefficients are simultaneously > tested. > That is, I may include up to four of the time-demeaned variables in > the > artificial regression, and the test results are always the same > regardless > of which four are included. Including more than four > time-demeaned > variables results in variables (either time-demeaned or > quasi-demeaned) > being dropped from the regression due to multicollinearity. > > With the test I developed, I directly compare the fixed effects and > random > effects parameter estimates. This is akin to the traditional > version of the > Hausman test. I am able to test for differences between the two > specifications in up to eight coefficients simultaneously. > Regardless of > which eight coefficients are tested, I get the same results. The > test I > developed yields the same results as Wooldridge's test if > differences in > four of the 12 parameters being estimated are simultaneously tested > but > converges on a different set of results when eight coefficients are > tested. > The inference does not change, though (ie, neither the test I > developed nor > Wooldridge's test rejects the null). > > This is very interesting, though I am not certain why I should be > able to > test more coefficients using the method I developed. Based on the > results > of Wooldridge's test, I think one explanation for why am able to > test only a > subset of the 12 parameters being estimated is due to collinearity > between > the quasi-demeaned variables and time-demeaned variables. All of > the > variables in my model vary both with subject and time. The > artificial > regression used to perform Wooldridge's test should include > quasi-demeaned > and time-demeaned versions of each variable; however, only a subset > of the > latter may be included. > > I am not sure how I should discuss this in the paper. Specifically, > if it > is a multicollinearity problem, what should I say the collinearity > is > between? > > -- > Jim > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mark Schaffer" <M.E.Schaffer@hw.ac.uk> > To: <statalist@hsphsun2.harvard.edu>; "James W. Shaw" > <shaw@pharmacy.arizona.edu> > Cc: "Mark Schaffer" <M.E.Schaffer@hw.ac.uk> > Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2004 4:58 PM > Subject: Re: st: How to perform Hausman test for random effects > specification with survey data > > > > James, > > > > This isn't a direct answer to your question, but might be helpful > anyway. > > > > It's possible to implement a version of the Hausman test that is > robust to > > heteroskedasticity and hence (I think) clustered, > probability-weighted > > data. > > > > You can do this by carrying out the artificial regression version > of the > > test. This seems particularly appropriate in your case since in > step (3) > > of your estimation below, you are estimating the GLS version via > a > > regression on the quasi-demeaned data. To do the artificial > regression > > version of the Hausman test, you run the same regression but > include the > > time-varying regressors after you have time-demeaned them. The > Hausman > > test is just a Wald test of the significance of the coeffs on > these time- > > demeaned additional regressors. > > > > The convenience of this for your application is that if you > estimate this > > artificial regression using -robust- and -cluster-, you should get > a > > Hausman test that is suitable for your clustered, probability > weighted > > data. > > > > You can find a full description of this artificial regression test > in > > Wooldridge's (2002) book, Econometric Analysis of Cross-section > and Panel > > Data, pp. 290-91. Note that when Wooldridge recommends on p. 291 > that the > > Wald test is robust to serial correlation as well as > heteroskedasticity, > > he is in effect recommending using -cluster- together with > -robust-. > > > > Hope this helps. > > > > Cheers, > > Mark > > > > Quoting "James W. Shaw" <shaw@pharmacy.arizona.edu>: > > > > > Dear Statalisters: > > > > > > I have a question about Stata's -suest- command that I hope > someone > > > may be > > > able to answer for me. I have seen it asked by others a few > times > > > before > > > over the past year without any response. > > > > > > It is my understanding that the Hausman test, which is often > used > > > to > > > evaluate the consistency of the estimates from random effects > > > models, cannot > > > be used with survey (ie, clustered, probability-weighted) data. > I > > > was > > > wondering if the -suest- command could be used to implement a > valid > > > version > > > of the Hausman test (for comparing random and fixed effects > > > specifications) > > > for use with survey data. I have done so using the code given > at > > > the end of > > > this message. > > > > > > Some background first. I have data from a multistage > probability > > > sample of > > > the US population (n=3773) with oversamples of blacks and > Hispanics. > > > I am > > > interested in estimating a design-consistent model allowing for > a > > > respondent-level random effect. I wish to compare the random > > > effects > > > specification against the corresponding fixed effects model > using > > > the > > > Hausman test. To estimate the random effects model, I do the > > > following: > > > > > > (1) generate weighted estimates of the variance components > > > (2) apply a GLS transform to the data > > > (3) estimate the model from the transformed data using > -regress- > > > > > > According to Korn and Graubard, the above procedure may not > always > > > work. It > > > does in my case because I have a large number of sufficiently > large > > > PSUs. > > > The parameter estimates and standard errors I get are equivalent > to > > > those > > > derived when using SUDAAN (which estimates the corresponding > > > covariance > > > pattern model). > > > > > > To perform the Hausman test, I do the following: > > > > > > (1) I concatenate the GLS-transformed and original data using > > > -append- > > > (2) Using -regress- with the score option, I estimate the > random > > > effects > > > model from the GLS-transformed data and save the estimates > > > (3) Using -regress- with the score option, I estimate the > fixed > > > effects > > > model from the original data (including dummies for respondents) > and > > > save > > > the estimates > > > (4) I perform the simultaneous estimation using -suest- with the > svy > > > option > > > (5) I perform Hausman's test for the consistency of the random > > > effects model > > > by testing the difference between the two coefficient vectors > > > (excluding the > > > constant and fixed effects) > > > > > > The above procedure seems to work. -suest- gives me the > correct > > > parameter > > > estimates and standard errors for the two models. However, I > notice > > > that I > > > am only able to test for differences in 8 coefficients > > > simultaneously. > > > There were 12 independent variables in each model (excluding > the > > > constant > > > and respondent dummies in the fixed effects specification). > > > Interestingly, > > > it does not seem to matter which 8 coefficients I test. I > always > > > get the > > > same statistical result (ie, F and p values). My thought is > that > > > this must > > > somehow be related to the fact that my data are clustered (ie, > that > > > I am > > > allowing for clustering at the level of the PSU). In other > words, I > > > think > > > it may be a peculiarity of my data and that the code I present > below > > > is > > > working correctly. Does this sound plausible? > > > > > > Any feedback you could provide me with would be greatly > appreciated. > > > Thank > > > you very much. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Jim > > > > > > James W. Shaw, PhD, PharmD, MPH > > > Post-Doctoral Fellow > > > Tobacco Control Research Branch > > > Behavioral Research Program > > > Division of Cancer Control and Population Sciences > > > National Cancer Institute > > > > > > > > > /* STATA CODE */ > > > > > > /* GLS TRANSFORM DATA */ > > > > > > collapse (mean) depvar m1-a2 d1 c3 c32 [pw = ttowgt], > by(rti_id) > > > ren depvar depvar2 > > > ren m1 m12 > > > ren m2 m22 > > > ren s1 s12 > > > ren s2 s22 > > > ren u1 u12 > > > ren u2 u22 > > > ren p1 p12 > > > ren p2 p22 > > > ren a1 a12 > > > ren a2 a22 > > > ren c3 c3n > > > ren c32 c32n > > > sort rti_id > > > save "E:\Dissertation\Data\temp1", replace > > > use "E:\Dissertation\Data\tempus.dta", clear > > > drop _merge > > > sort rti_id > > > merge rti_id using "E:\Dissertation\Data\temp1" > > > > > > xtreg depvar m1-a2 c3 c32 [iw = ttowgt], i(rti_id) mle > > > > > > gen theta = 1 - sqrt(e(sigma_e)^2/(12*e(sigma_u)^2 + > > > e(sigma_e)^2)) > > > gen depvar3 = depvar - theta*depvar2 > > > gen m13 = m1- theta*m12 > > > gen m23 = m2 - theta*m22 > > > gen s13 = s1 - theta*s12 > > > gen s23 = s2 - theta*s22 > > > gen u13 = u1- theta*u12 > > > gen u23 = u2 - theta*u22 > > > gen p13 = p1- theta*p12 > > > gen p23 = p2- theta*p22 > > > gen a13 = a1 - theta*a12 > > > gen a23 = a2- theta*a22 > > > gen c33 = c3- theta*c3n > > > gen c323 = c32- theta*c32n > > > gen one = 1 > > > summ one > > > scalar omean = r(mean) > > > gen one3 = one - theta*omean > > > > > > /* SAVE TRANSFORMED DATA FOR RANDOM EFFECTS ESTIMATION */ > > > > > > gen res = 1 > > > sort psu rti_id time > > > save "E:\Dissertation\Data\temp1", replace > > > > > > /* RENAME RAW (UNTRANSFORMED) VARIABLES FOR FIXED EFFECTS > ESTIMATION > > > */ > > > > > > use "E:\Dissertation\Data\tempus.dta", clear > > > ren depvar depvar3 > > > ren m1 m13 > > > ren m2 m23 > > > ren s1 s13 > > > ren s2 s23 > > > ren u1 u13 > > > ren u2 u23 > > > ren p1 p13 > > > ren p2 p23 > > > ren a1 a13 > > > ren a2 a23 > > > ren c3 c33 > > > ren c32 c323 > > > gen one3 = 1 > > > gen res = 0 > > > > > > /* APPEND TRANSFORMED DATA TO RAW DATA */ > > > > > > sort psu rti_id time > > > append using "E:\Dissertation\Data\temp1" > > > > > > /* ESTIMATE RANDOM EFFECTS MODEL */ > > > > > > svyset [pw = ttowgt], psu(psu) > > > reg depvar3 one3 m13-a23 c33 c323 if res == 1 [iw = ttowgt], > > > score(RE) > > > nocons > > > est store RE > > > > > > /* ESTIMATE FIXED EFFECTS MODEL */ > > > > > > tab rti_id, gen(id) > > > reg depvar3 one3 m13-a23 c33 c323 id2-id3773 if res == 0 [iw = > > > ttowgt], > > > score(FE) nocons > > > est store FE > > > > > > /* USE -SUEST- TO PERFORM HAUSMAN TEST */ > > > > > > suest RE FE, svy > > > test [RE_mean = FE_mean]: m13 m23 s13 s23 u13 u23 p13 p23 a13 > a23 > > > c33 c323 > > > > > > * > > > * For searches and help try: > > > * http://www.stata.com/support/faqs/res/findit.html > > > * http://www.stata.com/support/statalist/faq > > > * http://www.ats.ucla.edu/stat/stata/ > > > > > > > > > > > Prof. Mark Schaffer > > Director, CERT > > Department of Economics > > School of Management & Languages > > Heriot-Watt University, Edinburgh EH14 4AS > > tel +44-131-451-3494 / fax +44-131-451-3008 > > email: m.e.schaffer@hw.ac.uk > > web: http://www.sml.hw.ac.uk/ecomes > > ________________________________________________________________ > > > > DISCLAIMER: > > > > This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential > > and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to > > whom it is addressed. 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